I was wondering what size wheels and tires I should run at the strip. Baer brakes say that I can only run 17in and bigger wheels, is that ok or should I sell the brake kit and run a smaller wheel, is a bigger wheel better to have with the supercharger or should I run a small one? Any help will be great, Thanks, Josh
a 17inwheel when racing? are you seriously asking that? You want a 14 or 15 inch wheel with either a slick or drag radial mounted on them. I would suggest something in a 14x8 or 15x8 size.
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So basically say good-bye to your Big Brake Kit.
There's no need for a big brake kit on a drag strip. You only need to stop once. Stock brakes can handle that.
You want to run the smallest, lightest wheels you can get if your goal is to maximize your 1/4 mile time. This has nothing to do with whether you've got a S/C or anything else. It's just plain physics. The lighter the wheel, the easier it is to turn it.
As for tires... obviously the stickier the better. You want slicks but if you actually need to drive to the track on them, the best you can do will be street legal drag radials.
All that said... this is really only the route to go if you're looking to truely compete. If it's your daily driver and you just want some fun at the track, then you're better off with the big brake kit and dealing with the bigger wheels.
At least try to get the lightest 17's you can find. You don't want to end up like me, running down the track with 18" boat anchors for wheels.
You can find some light 17's, Mine are 13lbs each. Most big and light wheels are not cheap tho.
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that is why i don't want to guy a big brake kit. i am going to get a rear conversion.
Sport Compact revolution even said most of the big brake kits are not necessary, and on some car that have Dynoed have seen a slight decrease in HP.
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Mylife75 (ajose) wrote:that is why i don't want to guy a big brake kit. i am going to get a rear conversion.
Sport Compact revolution even said most of the big brake kits are not necessary, and on some car that have Dynoed have seen a slight decrease in HP.
On some? I would say on ALL. It's not that "big brakes cost horsepower". It's that more rotational mass takes more power to turn. It doesn't change your engine's hp but since they measure hp to the wheels on a dyno, some power is used to turn the extra mass so that power isn't available to the ground.
It's the same as if you'd put heavier wheels on, though to a much lesser extent due to the proximity to the hub.
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:a 17inwheel when racing? are you seriously asking that? You want a 14 or 15 inch wheel with either a slick or drag radial mounted on them. I would suggest something in a 14x8 or 15x8 size.
You can come down off your high horse any time now...
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Ian Lacey wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:a 17inwheel when racing? are you seriously asking that? You want a 14 or 15 inch wheel with either a slick or drag radial mounted on them. I would suggest something in a 14x8 or 15x8 size.
You can come down off your high horse any time now...
The @!#$ are you talking about? Is there a problem with me telling him to get a smaller wheel and not use a 17in wheel? Because if there is please let me know.
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if you eliminate the first 2 parts of your first response, it woulda been more respectful of the questioner
Being respectful of the questioner? How the heck does that make me on a high horse? Because I didn't give a 100% polite answer I'm on my high horse all of a sudden? Whatever.
It should be know, at least by readin any on JBO or watching any racing, that 17 inch wheels are not used in racing very often. Especially in drag racing.
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I know that they are not used often, but thats the smallest size I can use with the brake setup, and since I am going to get the car ready to be in a car craft days and world of wheels next year, I am going to keep the brakes, because they look a lot better than the stock equipment. Now cant I run some lightwieght 17's with some BFG TA Drags for tires and run a half way decent time. This is my daily driver(except for winter) and I bracket race at rockfalls, all I'm looking to do is run a somewhat good time.
i can get 15's and 16's over my wilwoods
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Being respectful of the questioner? How the heck does that make me on a high horse? Because I didn't give a 100% polite answer I'm on my high horse all of a sudden? Whatever.
It should be know, at least by readin any on JBO or watching any racing, that 17 inch wheels are not used in racing very often. Especially in drag racing.
theres no need to make him feel like an idiot for asking
03supercharged wrote:I know that they are not used often, but thats the smallest size I can use with the brake setup, and since I am going to get the car ready to be in a car craft days and world of wheels next year, I am going to keep the brakes, because they look a lot better than the stock equipment. Now cant I run some lightwieght 17's with some BFG TA Drags for tires and run a half way decent time. This is my daily driver(except for winter) and I bracket race at rockfalls, all I'm looking to do is run a somewhat good time.
Yes, you can. See my response above. There are some nice light 17's out there.
themarin8r wrote:theres no need to make him feel like an idiot for asking
Bingo
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Performance cars do not win car shows and show cars do not win races.
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Also no one asked the obvious question. Is this a dedicated drag rim, or something that you want to ue at the strip and on the street? It is a matter of compromise as to what you want, pure straightline perfomance, or the ability to do okay at the strip, okay on the street/autocross, and still look good at the friday night cruise?
Make that decision first. If they are a second set of rim used for only at the strip then Hypsi is right smaller and lighter, and keep the OEM brakes. However, if you are using it for a driver, and want to have a little bit of cornering perofmance a drag tire isn't what you want, the shorter sidewall on a larger rim allows for less flex, and thereby a more consistnet feel in the corners.
I use my 17's for a daily driver rim, and am in the process of getting a second set of front tires for the strip only, but they will still be 16's so that I can use a big brake kit off the track (big brakes are still in the planning stage). Yes I am sacrificing a little performance in a drag, but I am also gaining a little performance with no brake fade if I get the opportunity to autocross as well.
Make the decision then make the purchase.
