out of curiosity why do you change your air filter every year? if it's my recollection the filter is the same as ones like these.
i know that these are K&N but the same premicise. You can actually just buy a K&N recharge kit for 11 dollars at the local auto store. and wash and reuse the original filter. now if you are trying to sell us on tehtopic of the electronic supercharger then you might want to try and save your money because apparently you waste 15 to 20 dollars depending on the cost of your filter every spring. this goes for most all of your intake filters. plus according to K&N you want to build up a little dirt on your filter because it will run better. they recommend cleaning every 50000 to 100000 miles.
wow. spending $600 for 18 hp.
i just spent about 500 for about 55 hp from a nitrous kit.
this guy is complete tool
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Elminster Aumar wrote:All I asked for was somewhere "local" that does custom mendrel bending or something that would still get me what I'm looking for (a custom intake).
then you would think this should be in the REGIONAL forums if you wanted something local.
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Shifted (KickAzz) wrote:Ok, lets pretend this works.
1.7 psi, average of 10hp per psi (thats outrageously generous), you just spent $600 to gain 18hp?
I have Weapon-R Dragon Intake which cost me $400. The e-Ram website even says that you usually only get an extra 5-10% hp increase with the S/C.
Spork2021 wrote:out of curiosity why do you change your air filter every year? if it's my recollection the filter is the same as ones like these.
i know that these are K&N but the same premicise. You can actually just buy a K&N recharge kit for 11 dollars at the local auto store. and wash and reuse the original filter. now if you are trying to sell us on tehtopic of the electronic supercharger then you might want to try and save your money because apparently you waste 15 to 20 dollars depending on the cost of your filter every spring. this goes for most all of your intake filters. plus according to K&N you want to build up a little dirt on your filter because it will run better. they recommend cleaning every 50000 to 100000 miles.
Because I live in Canada, and by the time every Spring rolls around, the filter it absolutely filthy. Plus, K&N uses a different material in their filter.
99redz24 wrote:wow. spending $600 for 18 hp.
i just spent about 500 for about 55 hp from a nitrous kit.
this guy is complete tool
and how many times are you going to have to refill the bottle? didn't think THAT one through did you?
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and how many times are you going to have to refill the bottle? didn't think THAT one through did you?
The bottle actually works. I guess you didn't that THAT one though.
Elminster Aumar riddle me this... you keep quoting THEIR website... howcome NO OTHER website is saying great things about this new product? EVERY time i have seen a GREAT new product hit the market, car and driver, the muscle mags. tuner mags ALL mention great new products... so why is it. they are all staying quiet about this one? i'll answer that for you. BECAUSE IT IS TRASH. and you paying 400 bucks for an intake shows how nieve (sp) you truely are.. so i say, go ahead and waste another 600.. while your at it, get the jet module, and venom module, and you will be a blazin furrey... and then after you save up some more money, i have some ocean front property in alberta
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I have Weapon-R Dragon Intake which cost me $400.
I paid 150 for my dragon intake, 400 souds awfully steep. By the way, do what you like to your car, but a lot of the people in here telling you that this e-ram thing is a gimmick are quite knowledgable and are trying to do nothing but keep you from giving in to a scam. Any wa, have fun wasting $600, and when this thing does absolutely nothing don't come back on here crying about it.
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i cant believe this isnt a joke!! lol.. also yeah as someone else above said if you arent willing to pay for a real supercharger--you probably arent willing to pay the high price of mendrel bent piping.
SIRK798 wrote:Elminster Aumar riddle me this... you keep quoting THEIR website... howcome NO OTHER website is saying great things about this new product? EVERY time i have seen a GREAT new product hit the market, car and driver, the muscle mags. tuner mags ALL mention great new products... so why is it. they are all staying quiet about this one? i'll answer that for you. BECAUSE IT IS TRASH. and you paying 400 bucks for an intake shows how nieve (sp) you truely are.. so i say, go ahead and waste another 600.. while your at it, get the jet module, and venom module, and you will be a blazin furrey... and then after you save up some more money, i have some ocean front property in alberta
exactly.. so far your ''research'' is only from their website.. what company would TELL you their product is crap? of course they have plenty of good things to say about it. Websites such as the ORG can tell you more about products such as this because people have TRIED it on here (real people not just ones from the site you quote). Thats how I evaluate products and do research on them-- i look on here to see peoples responses who DONT work for the company selling the product.
you are better off thowing the $600 out the window.
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SIRK798 wrote:Elminster Aumar riddle me this... you keep quoting THEIR website... howcome NO OTHER website is saying great things about this new product? EVERY time i have seen a GREAT new product hit the market, car and driver, the muscle mags. tuner mags ALL mention great new products... so why is it. they are all staying quiet about this one? i'll answer that for you. BECAUSE IT IS TRASH.
Well, let's put it this way. Their product(s) have been featured in Magazines. They say so on the website. And before you lash back, they wouldn't be legally able to advertise the fact that they were featured in the magazines if they weren't. Even if it were a scam, nobody is stupid enough to do that because all of magazine publishers would sue them into bankruptcy and beyond.
scrawnywhiteguy wrote: I paid 150 for my dragon intake, 400 souds awfully steep.
I paid $400 because I hadn't found my current supplier yet. That's $400 including taxes...
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and how many times are you going to have to refill the bottle? didn't think THAT one through did you?
The bottle actually works. I guess you didn't that THAT one though.
WTF are you trying to argue? You just admitted to sinking a fortune into a bottomless pit, by constantly needing to fill up the bottle. Regardless of whether it works or not, a Nitrous system is probably the biggest waste of money to spend on performance. And if you don't need to constantly fill up the bottle, why did you buy it in the first place if you never use it? I'd rather spend $600 on 10hp that will always be there instead of $500 on 55hp that I'm going to have to constantly sink money into whether it's filling the bottle, or repairing the pistons and rings because they melted from the heat.
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and how many times are you going to have to refill the bottle? didn't think THAT one through did you?
that bottle actually does work. unlike that charger of yours. $400 for an intake? you like spending loads of money dont you?
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what magazines? this "feature in magazines" you talk about, was it an ad or was it the magazines reveiw of the product?
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WTF are you trying to argue? You just admitted to sinking a fortune into a bottomless pit, by constantly needing to fill up the bottle. Regardless of whether it works or not, a Nitrous system is probably the biggest waste of money to spend on performance. And if you don't need to constantly fill up the bottle, why did you buy it in the first place if you never use it? I'd rather spend $600 on 10hp that will always be there instead of $500 on 55hp that I'm going to have to constantly sink money into whether it's filling the bottle, or repairing the pistons and rings because they melted from the heat.
DUDE. I don't know if anyone has told ou this, but power is expensive. Nitrious is not a waste of money. It does what it is meant to do. The thing you want is a pos. Why dont you believe us? About "repairing the pistons and rings because they melted from the heat," if you use a big shot of nitrious, the smart thing to do is upgrade these parts so something like that doesnt happen.
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and how many times are you going to have to refill the bottle? didn't think THAT one through did you?
The bottle actually works. I guess you didn't that THAT one though.
WTF are you trying to argue? You just admitted to sinking a fortune into a bottomless pit, by constantly needing to fill up the bottle. Regardless of whether it works or not, a Nitrous system is probably the biggest waste of money to spend on performance. And if you don't need to constantly fill up the bottle, why did you buy it in the first place if you never use it? I'd rather spend $600 on 10hp that will always be there instead of $500 on 55hp that I'm going to have to constantly sink money into whether it's filling the bottle, or repairing the pistons and rings because they melted from the heat.
better stop putting gas in your tank then! thats a "bottemless pit" and i challange you to show me a magazine article written reviewing the product as great, and if you think juice will ALWAYS MELT YOUR MOTOR, yet again, shows just how much you need to learn, and how scared you are to pull any "real" power from your motor... why are you even bothering to do any hp mods, if you will be satisfied with 10 hp.. you can't even notice that...
I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. It probably is, because I can't think of ANYBODY who would pay 400$ for an intake that is mediocre at best... But I'm definitely sure that he posted this in the "Newbies" forum on his own. He's clearly going to argue anything negative we say about his 600$ constant supply of 10hp, so just let him go. We can keep dumping our money into the bottomless pit that is nitrous; he can do a one-time flush of his.
Good luck Elminster Aumar, you're a champion.
WHY do you not believe anyone? this website is here to help others from personal experiences.
you see that one website advertising these things.. it says its featured in magazines but what articles? its probably just in an ad. Did you actually read about this product in those magazines?
another thing.. i do NOT buy anything from a website that has to give "customer testimonials" EVER.. that usually means scam right there. If they were a reputable company they would be well known amongst all car tuners and would not have to have people saying how great their product is on their website.
BUT since you think this product is so great, why don't you do me a favor? Go to a couple different car forums and ask them all about it. You will see that no one here is lying to you, we are just trying to help.
But oh well its your money.... I mean I personally work for my money and dont particularly like throwing it down the drain on crappy products when i could just save up a couple more hundred and get a good product that works.
If you like wasting your money go right ahead-- no one here can stop you. But dont say we didnt warn you and dont cry when everybody that works on your car laughs at you (maybe not to your face but i know that mechanics WILL laugh at this) when they see an electric supercharger on your car.
since you already have an intake go buy yourself a throttle body, header, hi flow cat, catback exhaust, or something..
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But I'm definitely sure that he posted this in the "Newbies" forum on his own.
Actually I moved it to Newbies from Boost to try and save him some embarrasment with the more knowledgable members.
This is like arguing with a brick wall guys, let him spend his money on trash.
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oh yeah and RESEARCH.. hmmm... you know whenever i've had to do actual research for school i was always told to get several sources to get the best information on the topic.
HMMM.... several sources.. so far you've just seen their website... they said its so great... then you came here... we say its crap.... All im saying is go to a few more and see what everyone else says... because i do not know of ANY company that would say their own product is crap. You have to get info from places OTHER than their site.
All in all you cannot say how good their product is just from reading their website.. look around.. ask local mechanics even... i'm positive that anyone on any other car site will disagree with you on how great it is, as well as any mechanic.
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Umm just so you know, I can print a magazine, and sell carp in it, That way it is legale to say I have my products in magazines
this is a joke. this dude has been here since 2003. The org is addicting, so he would have had to glance at the site atleast a few thousand times, and this subject is brought up every once in a while. I hope this is BS.
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I paid $400 because I hadn't found my current supplier yet. That's $400 including taxes...
Total joke. Taxes are not 266%. no one would price an intake for $400 because only one idiot would buy it, by lowing the price to $150 more people will buy it, meaning they will make more money.
As I read this thread all I can think is...
ROFLKITTIES!...might as well run an air compressor on your serpentine belt and run the hose into your intake..:roll:
good luck finding a "local" shop that has a mandrel bender..those things cost a HUGE chunk of change
I read an article about a 9 second civic running quad electric superchargers... I am pretty sure they even had an extra supercharger sucking the exhaust out too.
well since this is under the newbies section i think i can ask this since i don't know much yet. What is a mendrel and why would you bend....whatever it is?Also what would you more expierenced people recommend for a S/C or T/C for a 2003 Cavy LS Sport?
So far this sounds like a person buying a $500 video card for a computer when all they're gonna do is play solitaire and use Word. But hey Aumar, i say do it and let us all know whats up. Better to know from someone who has tried than a website claim. If its crap,its crap and move on. If it works and does what it says it can do consistently, good for it. I prolly wouldn't do it cuz by the sounds of it,it runs off the battery. How does a normal turbo or S/C work consistently anyways? Like i said before...i'm a newb
Im agreeing with the noob and everyone else, i think the first thing that threw me off, what the fact that their "wiring diagram" was made in
PAINT, they made it in Microsoft Paint.
Mandral bending is just a way to bend piping. You can either mandrel or crimp bend it. and as you can probably tell, mandrel gives you a smooth surface, which allows the air to move better.
Ramon, go the the boosted section to get your info
Aumar, send the "supercharger" back, its a gimick, kinda like some of the stuff that they show on infomercals, its a waste of time and money, and you could damage your engine, so save the $600 and spend it on a catback exhaust system which will give you a guranteed boost in performance, maybe only 5 horses if that, but it will be a boost which you can be confident about.
Adam Asmus wrote: Mandral bending is just a way to bend piping. You can either mandrel or crimp bend it. and as you can probably tell, mandrel gives you a smooth surface, which allows the air to move better.
you forgot the more common aftermarket bend (compression)
