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Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:03 PM
OK I feel really stupid for asking this but I need to know.

American gauges read up to 180 Kmh where as the Canadian guages read up to 220 Kmh. Now I know guages don't mean anything cause my friends Honda Civic's gauges go up to 220 Kmh and it cuts off at 170 Kmh.

So what I'm asking is does anybody know what the actual max speed rating of the production J-body in Canada?

P.S. This is more of an informative question for myself not looking to steal some canadian ECU just to go faster. I still can't read 180 Kmh at the track so no need yet.





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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:39 PM
It's the same as the US one. Different for different years, but all around 105-108 mph.





Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:42 PM
That is what I figured based on the theory that the suspension and the tires would be the same from US and Canada but I was just curious, trying to make sense out of why they would make two different gauges rather than just have one which lines up with the actual max speed of the car.





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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Friday, September 09, 2005 1:07 AM
its GM. nothing they do makes much sense.




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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Friday, September 09, 2005 6:52 AM
Wild Weasel wrote:It's the same as the US one. Different for different years, but all around 105-108 mph.



Come on Bryan , duhhhhhhhh .







Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Friday, September 09, 2005 6:58 AM
.JeRsEy KiD.* wrote:
Wild Weasel wrote:It's the same as the US one. Different for different years, but all around 105-108 mph.

Come on Bryan , duhhhhhhhh .


Hey you never know.

So does anybody know if the Toyota Cavalier was also limited to 180 Km/h or could that go to 220 Km/h? This is my last attempt at making some kind of logical sense out of this. I know a company would not just make 220 Km/h gauges just for the hell of it when they already have fully functional 180 Km/h gauges at probably a cheaper cost with the higher mass production. I mean seriously with gearing the gearing and power these motors have 220 Km/h isn't unrealistic to acheive it would just be limited by the tires and suspenion supplied with the car. So I'm thinking possibly Japan just either didn't care and let it have a higher speed or had a better package installed with the car. Heck if you look at the other options that came with the toyota I wouldn't be surprised if they had an upgraded suspension also.





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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Friday, September 09, 2005 1:22 PM
Yes, the Toyota Cavalier was limited to the same 105-108 mph. The highest speed limit in Japan is 80 klicks and that's only on the Expressway, in town I don't think I ever saw a limit higher then 40 klicks.




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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Friday, September 09, 2005 11:33 PM
BoltZ22 wrote:its GM. nothing they do makes much sense.




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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:21 AM
BRYANNS DUMMMBBB...


haha just kidding




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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:43 AM
I refuse to accept that no J-Body produced stock was set with a limit higher than 110. It just doesn't make sense to me grrrrr......

Here's an idea, you want to save money keep using the same parts everywhere.





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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Saturday, September 10, 2005 8:46 AM
My car cut off at 170km/hr one day on the highway passing two motor homes. Go figure.

Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:44 AM
172 km on my z24 when i had it



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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:54 AM
173 Km/h 05 ecotec





Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:13 AM
172 km/h on my 2.2 ohv

engine blow...

change it...

new engine :

178 km/h

I heard that without the speed limiter the car can go up to 220 km/h



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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:19 AM
The ECOnator (Encriptor) wrote:
.JeRsEy KiD.* wrote:
Wild Weasel wrote:It's the same as the US one. Different for different years, but all around 105-108 mph.

Come on Bryan , duhhhhhhhh .


Hey you never know.

So does anybody know if the Toyota Cavalier was also limited to 180 Km/h or could that go to 220 Km/h? This is my last attempt at making some kind of logical sense out of this. I know a company would not just make 220 Km/h gauges just for the hell of it when they already have fully functional 180 Km/h gauges at probably a cheaper cost with the higher mass production. I mean seriously with gearing the gearing and power these motors have 220 Km/h isn't unrealistic to acheive it would just be limited by the tires and suspenion supplied with the car. So I'm thinking possibly Japan just either didn't care and let it have a higher speed or had a better package installed with the car. Heck if you look at the other options that came with the toyota I wouldn't be surprised if they had an upgraded suspension also.

99 and less = 0 - 180 km/h gauge

2000 + = 0 - 220 km/h gauge

The diff between the 2 models, 2000+ cars have electronic gauge...

do the math



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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:24 AM
I think

If they put a 220 km/h gauge it's because it was easier to calibrate the electronic gauge to it...

Sorry for all the msg in a row...



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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:06 PM
The ECOnator (Encriptor) wrote:
So what I'm asking is does anybody know what the actual max speed rating of the production J-body in Canada?


An hour ago on the hwy , bout 160 in an 02 sunfire.
Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Friday, September 16, 2005 7:28 AM
mathieums wrote:I think

If they put a 220 km/h gauge it's because it was easier to calibrate the electronic gauge to it...

Sorry for all the msg in a row...


Not true. It would have been easier to use the 180 km/h gauge since they could use the same electronics that the US cars use and just slap a different face on it.

Using the 220 km/h gauge means the electronics have to be slightly different.

I think it's all about aesthetics. Someone engineering the Canadian cars thought it looked cooler going to 220.





Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Saturday, September 17, 2005 7:51 AM
i just bought my j body 97 cav and had to test it out i took it to 110 mph no problem.
floored it all the way it was almost half way to the 1st gear mark . i would say thats clearly 120 mph.
Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Sunday, September 18, 2005 12:38 PM
then someone has bypassed the speed limited

btw, you ties aint speed rated for that speed nor are the brakes


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Re: Top Speed For Canadian Production J-Body?
Monday, September 19, 2005 7:55 PM
lets get the real question in. Whats the top speed of a cav with the limiter bypassed and 2.2 internals in the 2.4 case?



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