In America we are not taught anything about Canada in our schools or on tv. The extent of my knowledge comes from a few online anti-american liberals and Alanis Morisette. So I am curious what is life realy like in Canada? Try to be neutral and unbiased in your explanations please.

I am sure that Canadians don't have beady eyes, flip top heads, and worship hockey, ehh?





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Some of them wear kilts.

I think it is closer to what america is than what our thinking...................orrr not.


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The South Park image of Canada is pretty much accurate

OK, no..

Umm.. I have visited a few places in the US so I think the best thing would be to relate it to those places.

Umm.. First off, Canada is huge, so describing the weather would be near impossible. In southern Ontario the summers are hot and humid, the winters not so cold but wet, sometimes lots of snow sometimes very little. The West coast has milder weather, not so hot in the summer (but still hot) and almost no snow in winter unless you go into the mountains. The east coast has absolutely gorgeous summers with misserable winters that never seem to end and snow that can bury a house overnight (worst case). There are many points in between and the further north you go the colder it gets.. That's a given.

The political atmosphere is quite a bit more tame than the US. Our liberals are fairly quiet and our conservatives are not as conservative as the Republicans in the US. We have social democrats here who would likely be shot in the US.. Given the chance, they might get shot here too, but we tend to obey the law up here when it comes to violent crime.

The standard of living is similar to the northern US states, with Ontario being quite like Michigan only with less crap. I find US highways to be in poorer condition (not including toll roads) with so many bill boards you can't see anything else. In Canada it seems roads are constantly clogged due to construction, but the surface is good. We have bill boards but generally they are spaced apart and only exist near major centers. We drive the same cars in general.. Umm we pay more for fuel. Everyone in Ontario (very nearly everyone anyway) speeds. Our freeways speed limits are ignored by most commuters and the average speed is 20% to 30% higher than the posted limit. In Alberta everyone obeys the limit due to the RCMPs lack of tolerance.

We have a great number of overpayed unskilled labourers (factory line workers) thanks to unions and a great number of underpaid skilled tradespeople because of economic pressures caused buy the stupid unions that think the person sweeping the floor should be payed $25/hour while the people who fix the tooling and make sure the place runs get about the same wage. In every area there is a large agriculteral segment that shouldn't be ignored, but is. Ontario has a large finacial services industry and tons of manufacturing. Each province has it's own dominant sector. Out east its fishing and farming, Ontario you heard about, Manitoba has farming in a big way, Alberta has ranchers and oil, the west coast has logging. Of course there are overlaps and diversity in each area but those are dominant.

The culter is similar with a couple important differences. We are far less likely to sue someone, we don't seem to get as angry as fast and even though we have more guns per capita, we shoot each other less. We get the same (almost) TV and news etc.. but we figure it's all propiganda and spend huge amounts of time at the water cooler trying to figure out who the biggest liar is.

People are friendly in general, not unlike the US south west, except they aren't trying to sell you something

About 50% of the population is of Brittish origin with large cities having huge immagrant populations, amily from China, but very diverse. In Quebec the vast majority of people are French speaking, so while still European, it is a bit different there because of the culture that goes along with the language.

We love our country but almost never wave our flag.

This could go on for days.. Is there anything in specific that you'd like to know?

PAX

Damn.. I had a long ass post ready and waiting but I was using the wrong comp...

Anyhow..

To expand a little on what Hahahaha said:

Canada became it's own country on July 1st, 1867. Our head of state is still the Queen of England, however, her position,like in the British Government, is purely as figurehead. Canada has very strong British and French colonial ties.

Demograpically, Canada is as diverse as the USA. Mainly European caucasian, followed by native mongoloid/negroid, and then smaller populations of other mixes. The largest non-indigenous population in Canada is Sri Lankan, followed by Chinese and Americans. We're not a melting pot per se, each person is encouraged to retain their roots and culture to add to our own diversity, basically making a multi-cultural fabric. We're all Canadian, but we value our heiritage (I'm second generation Canadian, my Grand-dad was Irish).

We have 2 national languages, English and French, with English predominant. Although, throughout Canada, because of the official languages act, all written information must be in English and French, and all front-line Government Services have to be Bilingual. Primarily, you'll see French spoken in Quebec, New Brunswick, and the St. Boniface area of Winnipeg Manitoba. The issue of language and distinct society in Canada is a major issue that has threatened to cause the fracturing of Canada, but as of now, the political climate in Quebec is cool to the idea due to several factors but I won't get into that... too long of a post.

Speaking of Education: we have a functional illiteracy rate of about 12-14%, and a functional mathematical illiteracy rate of about 20%. These compare favourably to the US at 23% and 38% respectively, granted, the difference in scale and approach to education is much different. About 80% of Canadian High schoolers will go on to complete their secondary education, and of the 20% that drop-out, 15% will get a GED. About 55% of secondary school grads go on to Post-secondary studies either in College or University. Provinces subsidise the post-secondary system heavily for tuition, but otherwise, the student is on their own. Military students get College/University degrees, but are usually locked into 10 year contracts with the military. Over 60% of those that start post-secondary study go on to finish within the programme time, and 15% later on.

Financially... YES... WE CALL OUR DOLLAR A "LOONIE." Okay... now that that's settled, at strip clubs we usually use $5's. Back to reality, our Dollar has been valued lower than the US dollar since about 1990 or so. This has made it a lot more attractive for outside buyers to purchase our goods and raw materials. However, due to the current financial climate in the USA, and it's declining dollar, the Canadian Dollar is approaching parity... but it's still about USD $1.20 to the CAD $1. We carry a fairly heavy tax burden, roughly 30% on income tax for middle income families. On top of that, there is a national 7% Goods and services Tax (GST), and most provinces have a Provincial sales tax or a Harmonised sales tax (which I can't figure out for the life of me).

Imports and Exports, we import mostly manufactured goods. Canada has a robust Manufacturing economy, but nothing approaching the US, just as a matter of scale. Our main exports are Oil, Timber, foodstuffs, water and electricity. We provide the USA with 40% of the total domestic oil product consumption, 25-35% of the power for the North eastern portion of the US, including most of the Eastern Seaboard (IIRC, as far south as northern GA... I might be wrong), and there are water aquaduct provision contracts for CA, AZ, NM, NV, TX and other desert states.

Crimewise, Canada has low per capita violent crime, and low Property crime. Most Crimes are simple assaults, and low value property crimes (under $5000). Punishment/corrections are seen as lenient, but the emphasis is on rehabillitation, not punishment. Most of the time it works.. Canada's federal penal system has a 35-40% recividism rate for violent offenders, and less for the property crimes. Usually first time offenders are given a diversionary programme, and pending the completion of that, there is no criminal record left on file... however, repeat offenders are usually jailled with harsher terms. For the recalcitrant or extremely violent offenders, there is a (surprise surprise!) Violent offender status that can applied to a person's record... basically if they are considered a high risk to re-offend, they can be held in prison indefinitely pending successfull rehabillitation programme completion. This isn't lightly used (there are currently 312 people with that designation in our criminal records if my memory serves me), but when it is, the person is pretty bad news. Of note, the world's supposed most prolific serial killer (assuming the Green River Killer and Andres Tchicatillo in russia have all their crimes accounted for) is from around Vancouver BC, his name is <a href="http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/robert_pickton/3.html?sect=2">Robert Pickton</a>. I have no connection to the investigation, but there are about 90-105 possible murders that are connected to him.

Firearms: Canada has legal ownership of firearms, and for the most part, they are used responsibly, however, there are some rising instances of gun-related crimes in major metropolitan areas with contraband weapons. Getting a firearm is pretty hard, you need to have a Firearms Acquisition Certificate, and that requires a background check... and even more checks if you want to get restricted or other banned articles. We have a higher gun ownership per capita rate than the USA (11 million firearms, 28 million people) with most owners having 2 or more weapons. I personally have 2 .22 remington rifles, a 30/30 winchester rifle, a colt 1911 pistol and a Glock 22 as my service pistol. I keep none on my person or in my home for personal defence... anyhoo...

Media wise, 60% of Canadians still get their news information from traditional print media sources, with about 50% of that getting it in onlne editions of newspapers. Television is a major source of news information, but in comparison, I find CDN new channels (CTV News1 mainly) to be more objective than the offerings from the USA (Fox, CNN). I prefer to leave the editorial aside, I'd rather think for myself. Mainly you'll find that whe you're outside the USA, you'll see the "bubble" effect... basically, everything centering on what's happening within the USA and damn the rest of the world unless it's something that the USA has something to do with.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the Hurricane Katrina situation is just the latest bout. Post 9/11, Canada took in over 1000 flights bound for US airports, and there were a few SAR teams enroute to NYC and washington, not asked, just going when and where they were needed. No thanks either, apparently Britian that didn't do much of anything then is a truer friend.... Every other country but Canada.. minor irritation, but it's been going on for years, it's like getting slapped in the face 300-400 times... you get used to it. Afghanistan, Korea, WWII, WWI... Americans really don't learn about Canada... and I think that's a real shame. The only time I hear something about Canada is in regards to Iraq (which I'm not going to get into), and it's resoundingly negative, which is a shame... There's a real partnership that is valued here, and if it ended, I think will be greatly missed down south. I'd expound further, but it's been rehashed elsewhere.

Politically, we have different views, The US is percieved as and 800lb gorilla and as of late, hasn't been doing much to dissuade that idea. Canada on the other hand, treads a LOT more carefully, not to say we don't catch our fair amount of hell, but we don't court it by any means. I know that I catch hell for "slagging" the USA, and specifically the Bush Administration, however, Canada and the USA are pretty much joined at the hip. Canada would be in dire financial straits without the USA, and vice versa for the USA. Excluding oil transfers, the US and Canada do 1 BILLION dollars worth of business daily, we each have a real interest in what is happening on the other side of the fence.

I don't mean to come off as arrogant, degrading or what not... I only seek to provoke some informed thought. I've said before, and I'll say again, I can't in good conscience pretend nothing is wrong.

Personal ideas about the US and Americans, and yes, I've travelled in the US a bit with my old job @ Compaq/Siemens: From what I've seen in CA/TX/FL/NY/MI... the US is pretty much the same as Canada... small points aside, we're not all that different at heart. Americans and Canadians just want to live and let live, work for an honest living, give their kids a good place to grow up and learn so they can exceed our standard of living. I can't fault anyone for wanting the same things I want.




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Actually that was quite helpful.

I always had the impression that it was very cold and snow covered most of the year all across Canada. I have been to Niagra Falls a couple times but didn't figure that was an accurate description of Canadians.

How does your health care work? I heard that you pay around 15% tax on every dollar and a large portion of it goes to free health care for the country.

What does the rest of Canada think of Quebec? With them speaking French and wanting to suceed from the country.

So, a "normal" Canadian is moderate?





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I have some far more simpler questions, cuz I already know all that..

First, you have the CFL, but do you guys play football at the high school or college levels?

Besides the NFL, NBA, MLB and the CFL, do you have any other popular sports leagues?

I'll start there.


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Mennitti wrote:Actually that was quite helpful.

I always had the impression that it was very cold and snow covered most of the year all across Canada. I have been to Niagra Falls a couple times but didn't figure that was an accurate description of Canadians.

Well, about 80% of the population lives within 1000 KMs of the US/Canada border... Our weather isn't all that different from the northern states. We get winter like a bad suit every year, it just sticks to us. While it varies a lot,
West of the rockies, winter is a lot of rain, and summer is very pleasant
East of the Rockies (ie, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba) winter is cold, but dry.
Ontario around the great lakes is kind of cold and wet, northeast (Ottawa and Montreal) gets a lot of snow, and damp cold.
Further east, there's a lot of wind and moderate snow, but sometimes they get dumped on (like 3 feet of snow in 2 days).

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How does your health care work? I heard that you pay around 15% tax on every dollar and a large portion of it goes to free health care for the country.

We have a socialised medical system: basically, everyone pays nothing up front for surgeries, emergency care etc. However, if you want anything upgraded from the standard, you have to pay, also, some provinces have a drug plan, some don't... I'm pretty sure most have vision tests covered, but not sure about glasses etc, or dental. It varies by province, each one gets a Transfer payment from the Federal government that is earmarked for Health care, but some spend it otherwise.

Basically, for every Dollar of Income Tax that the Federal Government collects, $0.48 goes to health care alone. Income tax varies by tax bracket.. same as the US. Because of real problems with mismanagement and political actions (not a single doctor has advised the Federal Government on health targets in 20 years... ), our health care system, at least Ontario's, needs a drastic overhaul. The Conservative party has basically hacked and slashed the system to ribbons, and it's been tottering on the brink of collapse... Ontarians actually have to pay a health premium (I have to pay $396 annually), and here's the kicker, because I live and work close to Quebec, Quebecois that work in ontario have to pay that premium as well, but don't recieve it back. What a pisser!

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What does the rest of Canada think of Quebec? With them speaking French and wanting to suceed from the country.

Well, Quebec separation has been stirring on and off for about 35 years, and they've attempted separation twice by referendum. Both times they failled (obviously). There's a real deep divergence between English speaking Canada and Quebec. It has roots a long, long way back, and it's just gotten entrenched deeper and deeper since it started.

I can see both sides of the argument, and I frankly think that both sides need a good kick in the arse because nothing is getting solved. The good thing: the Bloc Quebecois (Quebec federal separatist party) and the Parti Quebecois (the provinicial party) haven't got the power they once had, and since the last election, the Quebec Liberal party has really opened up a dialogue with quebecers to try to figure out what is wanted. Ideally, they want to be a distinct society, and I can see what they're saying... it's different being in Montreal versus Toronto... and Quebec City versus say, Kingston.

I know there's a lot of alienation from the west and it's because of the rest of Canada focusing on Quebec, and the East has had serious problems because of the fishery problems, and Ontario is upset because of the amount of money paid into the federal budget versus what it gets back... It's no picnic.

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So, a "normal" Canadian is moderate?

I'd say so.. more liberal leaning moderate... but then again, someone in our conservative party could easily be at home in the DNC.


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What i know from my limited experience there--mainly southern and central BC:

The weather is similar to the Pac. NW states--with Vancouver being on average about 5 degrees farenheit cooler than Seattle (which is about 3 degrees on average cooler than Poertland). The Western portions are really wet in the winter, with the standard grey drizzle/rain from about mid september to about Mid-june in normal years, with a relatively mild summer. The biggest difference, though, is that most of the volcanoes in BC are extinct--while all of Washingtons's volcanos (with the possible exception of Adams) are still active (i've heard no reports of hot spring activity or fumalores on Garibaldi or Meager).

The streets there seemed a bit more confusing at first than Seattle's or Portland's did, and it's really easy to get lost (Apparently, all along the western seaboard from about Eugene north the don't tolerate the crap of having the streets in a grid pattern), However, the authorites there are a lot more personable on average than over here when they are on duty (The RCMP officer gave good directions on how to get back to BC99 and then back to america.

The populace there tends to hold their tongue a bit more and not be as direct, however, like most places in america, There are some complete and utter pricks there, but all the same there are some really cool people as well. The home setting is just about the same.

The feeling i got was one more of tolerance, which i liked. people seemed a bit less uptight on cultural differences--not just on over-sensitivity to people offending them (like I see in the U.S.), but people not really stooping to the level of thinking someone was subhuman for not being whatever they were. As much as people say Portland and Seattle are "Melting Pot" cities with a lot of tolerance for other races, Vancouver was moreso.

Central BC seemed about like Central Washington. A bit more conservative, but still on average a bit friendlier.

However, I will do a contrast. Both the U.S. and canada are personable when it comes to employment in service-oriented positions. Both places, the waiters/waitresses will converse with you, interact, and try to give a more freindly atmosphere. Slovakia, OTOH, fro what my g/f tells me, the waiters/waitresses are cold, and almost too professional.

My take, we're different, but deep down, we're pretty much the same.


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Yeah, most Canadians tend to keep what's really on their mind to themselves and focus on the issue at hand. (Mennitti?? ) Usually we're called polite to a fault and it's true in most cases... I saw a guy on a bike with his head down barrell right into a guy that was walking on a sidewalk... the 2 of them went sprawling, and even though the guy walking tried to get out of the way at the last second, he still said "sorry" to the guy on the bike. There's pricks everywhere, unfortunately.

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First, you have the CFL, but do you guys play football at the high school or college levels?

Yes, However, football is primarily played in Universities in Ontario, mainly because Colleges tend to be technical colleges (with University level courses). I played football in Highschool, but I really was doing it for fun, I wasn't much good at it, and I sucked at hockey... too big to do anything.

Anyhow, when Canadian kids are scouted, they're usually in university anyhow. Our football programmes aren't as involved (ie picking and choosing nationwide), but they're still very competitive.

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Besides the NFL, NBA, MLB and the CFL, do you have any other popular sports leagues?

Well, I think you mean the NHL on the first one, there's no NFL teams in Canada that I know of...

There's only one MLB team the Toronto Bluejays, the Expos moved to Washington DC.. Hope they do well... And Toronto has the Raptors NBA team.

Other than that, no there really aren't a lot more professional sports teams. I think Quebec City and Winnipeg need a NHL Team again... bring back the Coyotes and Avalanche!!!

Not team sports, but there are Indy Racing events in Toronto and Vancouver, and I think Montreal, and there's an F1 stop here at Montreal, I think even in Toronto, but I haven't been paying much attention to racing of any kind... too busy working.




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Remeber, though, Czechs and Slovaks are different. It's like calling a Canadian and American, or vice-versa . From what she tells me it's less service witha scowl, but just basically cold. What would you like, then they bring it, then drop off the check. Plus, i know in Russia, which dominated both for the better part of 40 years, smiling at someone in public was considered ridiculing them, so that might have a lot to do with it.


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AGuSTiN wrote:I have some far more simpler questions, cuz I already know all that..

First, you have the CFL, but do you guys play football at the high school or college levels?

Besides the NFL, NBA, MLB and the CFL, do you have any other popular sports leagues?

I'll start there.

OMG!!! n It's friken Canada.. Don't forget the big one.. NHL! Canada without the NHL would be.. Just weird (like last year)

Hockey hockey hockey.. Kids start playing at about 4 years old and never grow up.

We also have curling (scottish game) and LaCross (native game, tamed down a bit, but not much).

Yes there are Highschool and college football leagues, the post secondary football is a bit tough though with about 13 games in the schedule only.. So there are leagues that are not associated with the school year in an effort to improve skill levels.

We also have the same motorsports as the USofA.

Beer drinking is often considered a sport.. In winter some of us switch to whiskey

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Yeah, but your whiskey is like our beer.

You don't see us making a sport of seeing who can slam the most Beast....


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Keeper, WTF are you talking about.. Our whiskey is like your beer???

Accourding to the Whiskey experts Canada has some of the best whiskey in the world.. Of course I prefer Sctch whiskey to Rye whiskey but anything is better than corn mash.. Ick.. I know some people like Bourbon (my G/f for one) but not me. Too sweet.

If you are talking about alcohol contenet, yes we keep it to 80 proof (40 for regular whiskies, but "overproof) is available here.. In fact I've seen as high as 150 proof on the shelf ans up to 160 if you ask nicely.

I don't understand the "slam the most beast" comment.. Please explain.

Hmm, what do we learn about the US in school.. Well, we learn very little at school actually.. Let's see.. I can remember talking briefly about the declairation of independence, umm, the civil war.. Umm The war of 1812 is a big one.. Hmmm.. Not much really. But for students who are interested we offer American history courses that would go into those topics at length and mention the Spanish American war and the American Indian war.

Modern History is a given with major US achievements (like space programs and the like), the cold war, Cuba.. etc.

Our standard History lessons deal with the discovery and settlement of North Ameria with a focus on Canada, the fur trade, the tobacco nations, French and Brittish explorers. Typical modern history courses would cover our system of Governement, our involvment in the world wars and Korea.. Again mainly focussed on Canada.

I think we know a lot about the States (compaired to what you guys know about us) because of the influx of US media. At my home I have about 70 channels.. I'm guessing that about 60 of them are from the US. So that's the reason right there.. Personally I am a history buff so I tend to know a bit more than the average guy. My primary focus was on the middle ages in Europe but I am familiar with US military campains and signifigant achievements that might go under other's radar.

Of course I read all about Rome so I could understand the US system of government and the eventual fall of the empire.

PAX

Hahahaha wrote:We also have curling (scottish game) and LaCross (native game, tamed down a bit, but not much).[PAX

Maryland plays lacrosse, too. don't know about the rest of the country, but that's practically our state sport(if it isn't named the state sport already - not sure on that one).




pirates kick ninja asses, f00

i like strip clubs.


-Borsty

I took US history and 20th Century World history in HS, and it's been a gnawing thing for me.

Anyhow. I've personally tried to figure out and articulate the kind of sybling rivalry between the US and Canada... it's pretty complex.



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Borsty wrote:i like strip clubs.

What I mean is comparing, say, Black Velvet to Jack Daniels or Wild Turkey is like comparing Milwaukee's Best (Beast) to Kokanee or Molson.

Maybye it's a taste thing, but i've found that canadian whiskeys are not as good as American whiskeys. Why i say we mirror each other, You have better beer, we have better whiskey

And I mean that if we were going to have a drinkign contest, it wouldn't be slamming the WORST alcy we have (Like slamming "Beast" (Milwaukee's Best), as opposed, to, say, Guiness).

Just my opinion, you have the better beer, we have the better whiskey


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Hmm, Black Velvet is nasty stuff, I agree. Please try some Crown Royal or at least a 12 year old Canadian Club before judging our whiskeys. There are some very bad ones, as you know, but there are also some very good ones. To be fair, I don't mind Wild Turkey, as Bourbon style whiskeys go, It's better than most I have tried. I don't like Jack though, I don't know why really, I just don't like the stuff.. Southern Comfort (not truely whiskey, I know) is way way to sweet and I cannot drink it at all.

Tell ya what, let's get some El Jimador (tequilia) and talk it over

Slamming Guinness would be a challenge. I love the stuff, but drinking it fast is like trying to eat toffee fast. It can't be done.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand..

Yup, Canada is different and yet the same in many ways.

PAX

Yes it can be done...just not without you waking up with your liver sitting next to you with a pot of "Rocket Fuel" java and saying, "you're an @!#$!"

Anyhow, I will be willing to give others a shot, but i'm not much of a fan of tenessee whiskeys either--at least straight. I prefer Wild Turkey straight, and only use SoCo in mixes.

I'll pass on the El Jimador...bad experience with ex g/f, Tequilla, and me about 20 sheets to the wind attempting to clean her vomit out of my computer. How about we talk over a bottle of Stoli or Bacardi 151 instead


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Borsty wrote:i like strip clubs.

Heh... tipping for a loonie... it's fun stuff, esp @ Club Super Sexe in Montreal.

One thing I can say that's good about Canada, NO PASTIES!!!! Liberal attitudes make for great titty bars



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[quote=Keeper of the Light™]Yes it can be done...just not without you waking up with your liver sitting next to you with a pot of "Rocket Fuel" java and saying, "you're an @!#$!"

Anyhow, I will be willing to give others a shot, but i'm not much of a fan of tenessee whiskeys either--at least straight. I prefer Wild Turkey straight, and only use SoCo in mixes.

I'll pass on the El Jimador...bad experience with ex g/f, Tequilla, and me about 20 sheets to the wind attempting to clean her vomit out of my computer. How about we talk over a bottle of Stoli or Bacardi 151 instead

I happen to have some 151 in stock.. Even better, I've got Absinth.. It's only 140 proof (70 though

Oh wait, I still have about 4 oz. of Spanish Absinth left.. It's 160 proof (80.. Thujone is it's own thing .. You don't really get "drunk" per say.

I have Wild Turkey too but you'll have to ask my G/F f or a shot, that's her's and I know it.

PAX

Ehh, you need Czech or French Absinthe--higher thujone content...

Still, 151 works. Or a good Stoli. Or for the more british touch some good Gin.

Now, see, this will solve the worlds problems, sit around and have a few sips of the "Nectar of the Gods", so-to-speak


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