I've noticed a trend among the Bush administration. Why is it that more of his people are beginning to resign amid this crisis in Iraq? It should raise qiestions to the supporters in my opinion.

Resignation


"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."

well it's not like he's going to be reelected this year...maybe they figure they'll get out now, while the getting's good?




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elected ?

He was never elected in the 1st place. He was appointed by a court then rigged a so-called free election.




Rice.....Part of a balanced Pontiac diet.

he was reelected once already, kthx.




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^^^ Before anyone gets on his back, there were almost 750,000 ballots in Ohio tossed out, lost or counted as illegible, but were audited as usable.

I'll find links... but google works.

Either way: I find it funny that Republicans are fleeing Bush camp like rats take off from a sinking ship.

Damned political opportunists.

The only one I've seen with any credibility is John McCain... kept the President at arm's length to begin with, and has been in the same spot for 6 years. Inflexible or far-sighted?



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Oh stop the efing crying already !! Oh boo hoo Bush stole the election! Ok history lesson for all you left wing weenies..... BOTH of the democratic canidates conseeded the election to him meaning it didn't matter who anyone of us voted for becasue the democrats decided to back out of BOTH elections! And noone forced them to, nope they did so of their own free will. So the next time someone wants to cry about how Bush stole the election or both elections please try to remember the democrates GAVE HIM BOTH ELECTIONS WHEN THEY BACKED OUT !! So if you want to blam someone for Bushes being electid blame Al Gore and John Kerry for throwing in the towel. Why blame the winner for the loser quiting? That makes ZERO sence.

Now that being said I can't say as I blame anyone for bailing on Bush's dumb ass! Just to look at the sh-t hes done as of late is a reason I'm nowhere near as big a supporter as I was dureing his first term. Nope much like Clinton Bush is efing up his second term so badly that all the good he's done is being overshadowed by his latest stupidity.
True Bush never raped anyone like Clinton did but Bush is trying to screw us all with his "security" crap hes peddleing to us all. Thankfully it would seem not too many of us are buying any of it.




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

Whoa, back the @!#$ truck up the politically self-righteousness turnpike there, Jack...

When the hell did Clinton "rape" anyone? Last i checked all of the ladies consented hence no rape.

All i'm going to say is this: For those of you that voted for him: Everything that's going on is your fault. You could have always voted fror someone else, and don't give me the "Kerry would have been worse", there are more than 2 political parties, ya know...


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The only thing every single person from every single walk of life on earth can truly say
they have in common is that their country is run by a bunch of fargin iceholes.

Keeper, Google Women who Bill Clinton raped. But heres the list, Yes LIST !

1969 19 year old student Eileen Wellstone. Filed charges for sexual assault in 1969.
1972 unknown victim who refused her name to be published filed in 1972.
1974 unknown victim who refused her name to be published filed in 1974.
1978 Mrs. Brooddrick filed sexual assault chages in 1978.
1978 - 1980 State troopers in Arkansas know of at least 7 complaints of sexual assault filed during his time as govenor.
1979 Carolyn Moffit filed sexual assault charges the same year.
1982 Elizabeth Ward filed sexual assault charges the same year.
Paula Corbin, No year given on the attack only that charges were filed for sexual assault
1991 Sandra Jones filed sexual assault charges the same year.
1992 Christy Zercher filed sexual assault charges the same year.
1993 Kathern Willey filed sexual assault charges the same year.

Your all welcome to go check it out for yourselves but thats the list, names, dates and sometimes places and even some details as to how he would expose himself and demand oral sex from them.

Yup a president the democrates can be damn proud they put into office! A rapist.




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

You missed Jennifer Flowers and the other one from his first term.. Damn, I'll have to look it up.

I dod remember the slogan; "Two terms for Clinton, the second one in jail."

PAX

Filed, but when was he ever convicted? I'm not denying that President Chuckletrousers couldn't keep it in his pants, but he is innocent until proven guilty.


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The only thing every single person from every single walk of life on earth can truly say
they have in common is that their country is run by a bunch of fargin iceholes.

Thanks HAHA I didn't know how up to date the list was but I figured it made the point none the less.

Look at it this way Bush and Clinton are doing the same thing its just Clinton did it one at a time and Bush is just an overachiever.




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

Screw an intern, Screw a country... Screw the world?

Scale man, SCALE!!!!




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Now that I say that, I'm thinking:

GHW Bush: screw the country,
GW Bush: Screw the world...
Jeb Bush: Screw... the... Galaxy?

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Marvin Bush? --> screrw wtc security at least.

PAX

[quote=Keeper of the Light™]Filed, but when was he ever convicted? I'm not denying that President Chuckletrousers couldn't keep it in his pants, but he is innocent until proven guilty.EXACTLY! Until you can produce a list of convictions, your argument is moot Jack.


"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."

Not moot some of those actualy went to court but because he was who he was he got off the hook. Why do you think he was called "slick willie" or the "teflon president" He was a lyer a theif and a rapist and all the democrates Looooove him sooooo much. That speaks volumes about the democratic party.

As for Bush and his family his daddy was a do nothing president just like Jimmy Carter was. Dubya himself efed up with all this war sh-t. Had he stuck to doing what he currently is within this counrty economicly and with the job market and houseing he would be called one of the best presidents ever. But due to the war in Iraq and this domestic spying crap he's killing himself. All the good hes done is being pushed to the back burner and will be forgotten but the war will be remembered. Now I donot think we should have rolled over and played dead for those camel jockies I think we should have just gone thru wipeing out anyone that got in our way and then just left. Ef 'em why should we care about those people over there who supported the ass nuggets that killed so many here? Nope bomb the efers back to the stone age and roll out. That way we wouldn't have to worry about them for a few years and then when they start to show their towel covered heads again we blast their asses again. Sooner or later they'll learn or we just kill them all either way I'm fine with..




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

At least Clinton doesn't hold an all time US history execution tole.

• 1 -First president to execute a federal prisoner in the last 40 years.
• 8 - Number of days after that first execution that a second federal prisoner was executed.
• 1 - As governor of Texas , executed more prisoners (152) than any governor in modern U.S. history.

Now read up on some of these executions. We all know the system isn't perfect Bush just didn't care.

Please stop trying to defend bush.

All politicians are full of @!#$. We've just gotta find the ones that eat more fiber.

I agree 100% with keepers statement. The facts were present and people still didn't listen.

John McCain is one of the few respectable republicans. He too is extremely upset with the current administration. I'm surprised that many republicans still support him despite his blatant disregard for anything the the Republican Party stands for.


-Chris

Jackalope... did you just equate having sex w/ multiple women to murdering 30,000+ people? Yea... I though you did.

When did Bush murder 30,000+ people? Please don't say the "people" from Iraq as they're more close to animals then people. Doubt me ? How about being exicuted for leaving Islam? How about stoneing to death women for no reason ? How about just the way they are on a daily basis ? I've been there.....they are ANIMALS.

As for the exicutions done when he was govenor and now president, So? So what? Some poor convict was put to death for what? Killing someone else? SO! Doing some other horrible crime to some INNOCENT person? And your crying for them? Please get a band aid for your bleeding heart. I've said it before and I'll say it again if your on death row you deserve to be there. I know, I know its crule and unusual punisment to exicute someone right? Ummm, What about the victim they KILLED to get where they are!
And PLEASE, PLEASE, Do not try to start down the "well mistakes are made" road! There was a case of a murderer begging the govenor of a state to spair his life he had found god and didn't do it. Luckily the Gov. didn't listen to him and he was gassed but it kept eating at the Gov so for the first time in this countries history he had
DNA tested AFTER the exicution and guess what? The guy actualy did rape and murder the little kid just like the procicution said he did. But then that means (GASP!) A murderer is also a lyer! Now who would have thought that? They got what they deserved end of story. In fact a jury of thier peers put them their so cut it out. If you don't like it tough! Majority rule in the good old US! Don't like it? Go find a dictatorship somewhere else you can feel at home with.

And for the record please WHERE am I defending BUSH? Not here! In fact I do believe I said hes fu-king the whole country at once. But all you see is me calling your hero the rapist Bill Clinton what he actualy is A rapist, A theif, And a lyer. Clinton was NO goodie two shoes! And yes Bush is no better. I'm not defending Bush at all I'm bashing BOTH of them but I guess you lefties just can't stand that.

Whatever.




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

Jack, as I stated before...he was NEVER convicted, so your argument is still moot. You remind me of those people who still shout, "OJ did it".

Secondly, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and we shouldn't have been over there to begin with.

Thirdly, Bush has done hardly ANY good for this country. In fact, I can't think of ONE thing that he has done that was worthwhile. I will remember him as the president that cost thousands of lives, deceived the country, and couldn't speak the English language better than a 3rd grader with a speech impediment.


"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."

Please spare us the asinine "find a dictatorship iof you son't like it" bull@!#$, Jack. It's making you sound less intelligent than you are and more of someone that's so blinded by patriotism that they would run right off the cliff like the lemmings they are.

For starters, while i can't say that Clinton definitly DIDN'T rape anyone, until he's proven guilty, he's assumed innocent. If you can't accept that then maybe you need to find a coutry where you're guilty until proven innocent...like, say China.

Next up, if you're going to argue that the Iraqui's killed for Dubya's war aren't going to count, then you really have issues. It seems to me that most iraquis are blinded into thinking they need an oppressors regime to lord over them, and sell them God in an easy to digest form so that those in power can keep power.

Kinda sounds like America tro me. And if you look at it that way, then it could be construed that those that dies in 9/11 don't count either.

Not that I believe it, but please, a human is a human. If you claim that they are "no better than animals" you have to also realize we're not better than they are, so we're no better than animals either.

And on that note, i'd say Animals are much more civilized the humans are.

So please take off the rose-colored glasses and see that in the big picture we're no more civilized than they are. Otherwise one human life will mean more or less than another, and if you believe that then you've got some serious issues.


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The only thing every single person from every single walk of life on earth can truly say
they have in common is that their country is run by a bunch of fargin iceholes.

[quote=Keeper of the Light™]
And on that note, i'd say Animals are much more civilized the humans are.


Chickens are decent people.




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Keeper here in this horrible country that you all seem to hate so much we don't stone women to death for talking to a man, or going out in public without a male escort, or for not wereing what us as men tell her to were, or for denying sex for her husband, or beat children untill they are knocked out if they cry because they are hungry, we do not arrest and exicute people for choosing the wrong religion, we do not lock someone up for speeking out against the govt., we do not kill you for haveing differing beliefs, we do not gas intire villages because we don't like your religion, we don't have rape rooms set up so our Jr dictators can have some fun. If you don't have the guts to call it like it is fine but don't shake your finger at me for doing it.

Sorry but most of you have no idea what the rest of the world is like and then you for some reason feel compelled to say how bad we have it here. AND then get pissy when someone whos seen that crap first hand dares to say so. I'm not the intollerent one here its you guys. You who claim to be open minded and willing to listen and discuss
things untill you hear something you don't like. Then its "shut up" "your stupid" "you moron" "your a lier" "you don't know what your talking about" Seems to me you enlightened ones here are actualy the most conservative ones in the bunch. How dare anyone challenge your way of thinking. But if you decide to its fine because after all your the enlightened ones.

Please stop being so narrow and close minded and try looking at both sides of things.
Maybe you'll see that a few of the things others have to say maaaaay just be right.

I say they are no better then animals. I have seen their cruelty first hand and how its their way or death and your here defending them? Good Grief!

Now lets TRY and get back on topic here. Its how the Bush admin is falling apart.
I agree it started out fine and now is running straight to hell. Any ideas on how to stop this runnaway train? Anyone?




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

Let's take this from the top:
We don't stone women to death for talking to a man, but we burn down churches of people that have darker skin color than us--while they are in it.

And yes we do beat up and kill people for being the wrong religion--ever been to the south?

We have paved the way to make it illegal to speak out against the government for the bull@!#$ that Bush pulled with the Patriot act and this wiretapping business.

We do beat our children, our wives are beaten for the breakfast being cold, we do kill for having different beliefs--it's just looked down on when it happens to be made public; we still do it.

We will lock you away in concentration camps because we happen to be at war with the nation of your ancestral origin (Remeber the japanese concentration camps from WWII)

We do gas crowds because they have different beliefs, i live in WTO central.

We don't have rape rooms set up, but how many master raped their slaves? After all, we actualy had them, remember?

We have committed genocide before...how many native american nations were wiped out under the guise of Manifest Destiny?

See, Jack, i'm not defending them at all. I'm saying we can't possibly demonize them without demonizing ourselves. If you've been over there and seen the horrors, then maybe, just maybe, you need to look in the morror and realize that in the skeleton-filled closet WE'VE DONE SIMILAR THINGS! While this doesn't justify their actions in any means, it does not make us any better than they are no matter how much we pretend to be civilized.

Hence the rose-colored glasses. you're not looking at them with them on, you're looking at us with them on, because, of course, a "good god-fearing American" can't be evil, can they?

So, if you call them animals, then we're animals too. But in my opinion, animals are a few steps up on the evolutionary chart than the virus that is humanity.



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The only thing every single person from every single walk of life on earth can truly say
they have in common is that their country is run by a bunch of fargin iceholes.

Yes and Blacks also burn down churches too. The race card Keeper? I thought more of you then this. Geez!

Been there and I haven't heard of anyone being locked up tired convicted and exicuted for being a wrong religion. Can you please find me that news article as I would like to see what law the person was convicted under.

I agree with you on the BS patiot act stuff but right now we can still go out in front of the white house and scream Bush is a moron without fear of being shot but the repubic gaurd.

Yes I am well aware of the rampant paranoia of the 50's. Tell me how does this relate to us now? I wasn't a gaurd were you?

Really! I HAVE to see this article! Please link me to where we gassed our own people with Serin so I can see for myself. I doubt this EVER happened but I'll give you enough rope to hang yourself with. Link please

Keeper! You Had slaves! Holy crap! Do your local police know about this? My families came here long after slavery ended. Did yours ever own slaves? Slavery ended about 150 years ago I would LOVE it for you to show me ONE single slave or slave owner still alive. See we've learned from our past mistakes but not them they keep right on.

Keeper again did you kill any indians? If not stop beating yourself up over the sins of something you had nothing to do with. Try to focus on while we've actualy been alive ok

Keeper True we may have been there but that was in the past. A past we learn from and see what was done wrong. The past is important to remember so we do not make the same mistakes again. Its the single best learning tool there is. I don't demonize them rather I pity them. I feel soory for the kids who get beet because they're hungery by their daddy. I feel sorry for the women who are picked up off the streets and raped by Jr dictators I feel sorry for the poor guy who choose to believe in Jesus Christ and was arrested and condemed to death for it. And how can we fix it? By showing them its wrong to do those things. And if that means knocking over a two bit hood of a dictator so everone can live freely then I'm all for it. If that makes me a bad person then a bad person I am. And Keeper you can not hold the son responcible for the sins of his grand or great grand father.




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.