Rollinredcavi wrote:frank marek wrote:I meant ( very ) cold weather. I already use premium. The muffler is lighter that stock. Still won't keep up with my Lt-1.
Dude. I am not going to rip on you here. I want to be informative. Premium is wasting your money. Premium is harder for a car to burn and therefore might not completely combust the fuel/air mixture. Therefore you get worse gas milage. You dont need premium, and you should never run premium, on a stock J.
Also are you expecting your ECO to be as quick as an LT-1? I sure hope not, because you are in for a very disappointing ownership of your ECO.
Seriously, listen to some of us on here and you will learn so much more than just hoping everything works. When you get your supercharger, put on a straight through muffler first. It will help that charger work like it should. Once you do get it, then you need to start running premium. Being that it is harder to burn you wont risk detonation as much.
Seriously man. Just search around this site and make sure you understand everything fully before you put it on. Make sure you read everything about it, even the stuff you know already. You will not be dissapointed. The first thing someone should do when getting that far into power modifications is to admit what they dont know, and not put anything on the car until the find the answer from someone who does know.
Good luck.
I was just wondering if you have the numbers to back up what you stated about premium fuel?
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so you own a LT-1...AND a ecotec...and you're dumping money into the eco....when the LT-1 is just sitting there, in all it's V-8 goodness? *tear drop*
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First of all... I think you guys were just waiting for the opportunity to flame a post.. LOL... wow, you have to love winter when us gear heads have nothing better to do but flame onthe net.
Second of all... if t his cherry bomb supreme turbo is anything like my old dynomax super turbo muffler I had on my olds, I have to agree somewhat with frank... the muffler only gave a nice deep tone when accelerating, and decelerating, as for power gains, have no idea, never dragged the olds (lol.. why?? it was slow). I honestly would put super turbo mufflers on my girlfriends 2.4 Sunfire, only cause they don't drone on the highway, and they aren't annoyingly loud, just a nice deep tone.
Third... I'm sorry frank, but the QUAD 4 is one of GM's best engines, well, if the pencil pushers didn't ruin it. Think of it, get one, put ARP studs and a high quality gasket on there, and you have a 180hp stock 4 banger. Port the head and manifolds, you're laughing. in 1988, who else was making over 180HP in a stock N/A 4 banger?? Where do you think the ecotec started?? I stand by the QUAD, one of the best 4 bangers I've had, even though I blew the bottom end out of it... still loved the torque that engine produced.
Go Silverstars.. LOL.. sorry had to throw that in
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The argument about premium can go on forever. I use it mainly because the ecotec has high compression and because premium burns cleaner. In most cercumstances, 87 will be fine, but I want to be sure I am getting the maximum pre-set timing advance under all driving conditions. Hot weather, sudden acceleration etc,
Your right, my Lt-1 has lots of potential to make power. But I use it for long high trips and it does fine stock. Later I want to put on turbo mufflers and drill the air box. I might also change the gear from 2.56 to 2.93 for better pickup and better overall driving, but the gear change is expensive when you do it right and change the bearings, seals, etc. I bought the ecotec cavalier to save gas because I drive 2 hours a day. I expect the supercharger to bring it up to at least a 95 mph quarter mile car and that is fine with me. The supercharger has a blow off valve and is supposed to get about the same gas mileage on the highway. Actually, my stock Lt-1 is only 3 or four mph faster in the quarter mile than the cavalier and the cavalier gets about 10 miles more per gallon.
To the guy who hates the cherry bomb turbo. You have a 6 cylinder and an automatic. That is why I made this post. You never know what you are going to get until you try it. I tried it on a 5 speed 4 cylinder ecotec and it worked great. Also there are different models of the cherry bomb.One is smaller and cheaper. I used the 2 and a quarter inch cherry bomb supreme. Stock number 87705
DanteMustDie wrote:jimmythekid1 wrote:
I was just wondering if you have the numbers to back up what you stated about premium fuel?
read your owner's manual
Well i know from experience that I've solved many of my customers driveablity problem by having them switch from regular to a high quality mid grade. But it has nothing to do with octane it is because today's fuels are basically poor quality. higher quality fuel compresses better, it has little to do with the octane but mid grade and premium have less of the additives in them. Also my daily driver is a carborated 305 and it will not run right on regular octane, I need to run at lest mid grade or else I have a lean misfire. Fuel is not a good as it was 10 years ago. The higher grades compress better so cars run better on it.
Well that is my professional option.
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frank marek wrote:Later I want to put on turbo mufflers and drill the air box.
LOL, who would have thought. Also,
frank marek wrote: I might also change the gear from 2.56 to 2.93 for better pickup and better overall driving, but the gear change is expensive when you do it right and change the bearings, seals, etc.
DIE
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I have an 03 5-speed Cavy, and when I race.. I shift at 6300-6500. That method (coupled with the fact that the guy probably couldn't drive for @!#$) allowed me to keep up with/have a slight lead on an 04 Mustang GT.
tHE LAST ONE WAS NOT MY QUOTE. iT WAS WRITTEN BY MSD. WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TRYING TO PROVE. i AM TRYING TO TALK CARS. NO OTHER SITE HAS SO MANY IGNORANT PEOPLE AND A-HOLES.
I put a cherry bomb muffler on the end of my magnaflow exhaust when I wanted it to sound a little bit deeper and a little bit louder. Needless to say, it came off when I started the car with the windows down and it sounded like my dog farting. I told the guys at Autozone about this post and they laughed. Why do you think you possibly could gain 2 mph with a basically stock cavalier? I don't even think you could have gained a tenth of a second in your time. Please, just post your timeslips, and stop being such a douchebag about it. In all fairness, I don't think you have an LT-1 either.
Talk to the pros Autozone...
right after I get a radiator for my corvair
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i put the Turbo 2 muffler on mine..its sounds ok but it definitely was not a "performance upgrade" ....you totally contradicted yourself when you were talking about doing things the "right way" but also said you wanted to "drill out the air box". its also funny you use you LT-1 for long trips but keep mentioning the better gas mileage you get with the ecotec. it seems you must have skipped common sense 101 during your collage education
I think you missed common sense. Everyone knows that full size cars are the best highway cruisers. The guys at autozone. Right ,$5 per hour experts. Now I am lying about having and Lt-1. Make that an official apology and I will scan the title. A few of you guys are immature losers that are trying to get ego satisfaction from trying to be a car expert. Who would lie about having an Lt-1. Mr. moron adam p. That's who.
Heh, you gave yourself away there.
I give you an 8 for effort, but a 3 for originality, since most of j-body.org is full of idiots who would post exactly like this (as a few of the replies have proved). Come back when you really know how to troll.
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I have an 03 5-speed Cavy, and when I race.. I shift at 6300-6500. That method (coupled with the fact that the guy probably couldn't drive for @!#$) allowed me to keep up with/have a slight lead on an 04 Mustang GT.
frank marek wrote:To the guy who hates the cherry bomb turbo. You have a 6 cylinder and an automatic. That is why I made this post. You never know what you are going to get until you try it. I tried it on a 5 speed 4 cylinder ecotec and it worked great. Also there are different models of the cherry bomb.One is smaller and cheaper. I used the 2 and a quarter inch cherry bomb supreme. Stock number 87705
I have the 2 1/4 Turbo muffler aswell...and my car would benefit from a free flowing muffler more since my engine is more powerful then yours...It doesn't seem to make much of a difference. Maybe we just like the different sounds. I know that it doesn't sound good when reving out. At full throttle I dunnoh....the exhaust isn't loud enough to be heard over my 60degree V6.
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Why do you people keep quoting MSD as me. I did not write that about the mustang
Hate to say it, but they dont come stock with 2.56 gears, i think you may need to re-think that..
3.56 maybe.....
and i'm not trying to be an ass here, but from just changing the muffler alone, you cannot pickup 2mph. even on a stock exhaust system if you took the muff out all together not going to get that 2mph. However because it was not done on the same day you cannot compair unless you had identical weather conditions etc. could've also been the way you were launching.
So your now trying to tell everyone that an LT-1 is going to get BETTER milage than an ecotec on the highway?!?!? how many LT-1's do you see that can go 6-800KM's on a tank?
Now i do agree that the full size cars are more comfy thus "better" but when it comes to milage no.
And just WHAT the F**K is drilling a stock airbox going to do?!? you know what i'm not even going to spend my time writing a comment on that.... I have NO clue how old you are, but from the way you come off on the forums it really does seem like your blowing @!#$ our yer azz and in a 16yr/old way....
Now take your bloody ignorant Bull-shirt comments, and stuff them already. Face it unless you did a header, larger exhaust, removed the cat then did the muffler your NOT going to get 2MPH out of it. And for drilling a stock airbox, thats not going to do jack @!#$ either.
I'm not a rocket scientist but i've been around the block a few times when it comes to racing and building performance engines.
Normally i dont like to comment or come off as an azz, but man you really gotta
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a muffler is a muffler you wont benefit from a stock car if you dont put all the basic add-ons like intake, TB, high-flow cat, headers and a 2.25" on the exhaust line and a few i didnt list.
Beside its all for marketing i notice on my Magnaflow way better sound then basic fart cans and a better top-end thats it.
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The lt-1 comes stock with a 3.56? your nuts. And who said anything about better gas mileage. I am talking about room, ride, seat comfort , noise level.etc. The caprice lt-1 is a much better long distance cruiser than a cavalier. Different cars for different reasons. My cavalier is the daily driver. Also, drilling the air-box is a common low cost mod on the lt-1 caprice. I am talking about being on a budget. Cars are only one thing in life.
frank marek wrote:The lt-1 comes stock with a 3.56? your nuts. And who said anything about better gas mileage. I am talking about room, ride, seat comfort , noise level.etc. The caprice lt-1 is a much better long distance cruiser than a cavalier. Different cars for different reasons. My cavalier is the daily driver. Also, drilling the air-box is a common low cost mod on the lt-1 caprice. I am talking about being on a budget. Cars are only one thing in life.
frank marek wrote: The muffler and the supercharger will be the best performance mod return for my money. I am sure the smart ones out there will follow my advice.
sures seems to match up, the old cheap stage one supercharger. i am not as smart as some of the people around here but my nose still works and the squishy stinky matter i am walking in sure smells like
fuggit i like my silverstars too, good luck
Please someone shoot me for even being involved in this thread that has gone on entire too long.
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lmao /\ no flame suit could have saved this guy from over 100 flamings.. thats gotta be some sorta record
